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c. eighth century B.C.

Homer

Worth knowing

  • The Iliad and the Odyssey stand at the head of Greek literature, and for centuries they were how a Greek-speaking child learned to read.
  • Whether one person called Homer wrote either of them has been argued for well over two thousand years.
  • Every apologist in this game was educated on these poems. When they argue with pagans about the gods, this is the text on the other side of the table.

In Scholar’s Dream, Homer has two books

Homer’s quotes in the game

Every quotation from Homer that a player meets in Scholar’s Dream, attached to the move that says it. Or see them as a plain list →

In Scholar’s Dream, books argue with each other, and each thing a book can do in a debate is called a move. Every quote below is spoken by one of those moves. Open “How it works in the game” under a quote to see the move, which books learn it, and which arguments it answers best.

Book 2 of the Iliad lists over a thousand ships and every contingent that sailed to Troy — ancient audiences prized the roll-call as history.

Homer, Iliad 2.
How it works in the game: the move Catalogue of Ships
HistoryArgument · power 45 · 90% accurate

In the gameAn exhaustive muster. Exhausting, too.

Learned byIliad (Lv 1)

“Tell me, O Muse, of that ingenious hero who travelled far and wide after he had sacked the famous town of Troy.”

Homer, Odyssey 1.1 (trans. Butler, public domain).public domain
How it works in the game: the move Man of Many Ways
AllegoryArgument · power 50 · 100% accurate

In the gameCunning wins where strength failed.

Learned byOdyssey (Lv 1)

“Sing, O goddess, the anger of Achilles son of Peleus, that brought countless ills upon the Achaeans.”

Homer, Iliad 1.1 (trans. Butler, public domain). The foundational epic of the Trojan War.public domain
How it works in the game: the move Wrath of Achilles
AllegoryArgument · power 55 · 100% accurate

In the gameThe oldest opening line in Greek literature, still swinging.

Learned byIliad (Lv 1)

Words Homer’s books borrow from others

Moves these books can learn whose quotation comes from somebody else. The citation on each one names who actually said it.

“Let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, and slow to anger.”

James 1:19 (WEB).
How it works in the game: the move Steelman
RationalityType shift

In the gameRestate the foe’s position in its strongest form — exposing its true weak point. Lowers the foe’s Defend. Always fair; never a bad move to use.

Learned byOdyssey (Lv 8)

“He gave him no answer, not even one word, so that the governor marveled greatly.”

Matthew 27:14 (WEB); cf. Isaiah 53:7.
How it works in the game: the move Silence
ChristologyType shift

In the gameSay nothing. Convinces no one — but the next argument lands harder. Raises the user’s Contend, after the pattern of Christ’s silence before his accusers.

Learned byIliad (Lv 9)

Who else was alive

Homer against everyone else in the game.

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