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c. 460 – c. 400 B.C.

Thucydides

Worth knowing

  • An Athenian general who lost a command, was exiled, and spent the rest of the war writing it down.
  • The History of the Peloponnesian War is deliberately unromantic: no gods intervene, and he says plainly that he wrote for people who want to understand how such things happen.
  • He stops mid-sentence in 411 B.C. The war outlived the book.

In Scholar’s Dream, Thucydides has one book

Thucydides’s quotes in the game

Every quotation from Thucydides that a player meets in Scholar’s Dream, attached to the move that says it. Or see them as a plain list →

In Scholar’s Dream, books argue with each other, and each thing a book can do in a debate is called a move. Every quote below is spoken by one of those moves. Open “How it works in the game” under a quote to see the move, which books learn it, and which arguments it answers best.

“I have written my work, not as an essay which is to win the applause of the moment, but as a possession for all time.”

Thucydides, Peloponnesian War 1.22 (trans. Crawley, 1874, public domain).public domain
How it works in the game: the move Possession for All Time
HistoryArgument · power 60 · 100% accurate

In the gameStrict evidence, no romance. It holds up.

Learned byThucydides (Lv 1)

Words Thucydides’s books borrow from others

Moves these books can learn whose quotation comes from somebody else. The citation on each one names who actually said it.

“He who pleads his cause first seems right; until another comes and questions him.”

Proverbs 18:17 (WEB).
How it works in the game: the move Question the Premise
RationalityType shift

In the gameChallenge the foundation of an argument before it can be pressed. Lowers the foe’s Contend.

Learned byThucydides (Lv 5)

“Let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, and slow to anger.”

James 1:19 (WEB).
How it works in the game: the move Steelman
RationalityType shift

In the gameRestate the foe’s position in its strongest form — exposing its true weak point. Lowers the foe’s Defend. Always fair; never a bad move to use.

Learned byThucydides (Lv 8)

Who else was alive

Thucydides against everyone else in the game.

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