Wrote in the 1150s

Ebo and Herbord

Worth knowing

Two monks of the Michelsberg abbey at Bamberg who wrote lives of their bishop, Otto of Bamberg, in the 1150s.
Otto went as a missionary to Pomerania in 1124 and 1128. He refused to use force and trained local men as priests.

In Scholar’s Dream, Ebo and Herbord has one book

The Life of OttoEbo and Herbord, Vitae Ottonis — the Life of Otto, Apostle of PomeraniaHistoryEthics

Words Ebo and Herbord’s books borrow from others

Moves these books can learn whose quotation comes from somebody else. The citation on each one names who actually said it.

“They are animals and are altogether ignorant of spiritual gifts, and so they judge a man only by his outward appearance.”
Bernard the Spaniard, in Ebo/Herbord, Life of Otto, trans. Robinson (1920), public domain.public domain

How it works in the game: the move Judged by the Outside

AnthropologyArgument · power 72 · 100% accurate

In the gameA failed missionary explaining his own failure, with a sneer. His observation was sharp, and it changed how missions were done afterwards. The contempt is his, and the people he describes had just spared his life.

Learned byThe Life of Otto (Lv 1)

“I say that it is more correct that it should pass from the head to the members than from the members to the head… Let us reverse the custom of the primitive Church”
Duke Wortizlaus of Pomerania, in Ebo/Herbord, Life of Otto, trans. Robinson (1920), public domain. (trimmed quote)public domain

How it works in the game: the move From the Head to the Members

EcclesiologyArgument · power 70 · 95% accurate

In the gameA duke explaining why he is baptised first and his province follows. He knows the early church did it the other way round, and says so. Much of northern Europe was converted this way, which is one reason its faith often stayed thin.

Learned byThe Life of Otto (Lv 32)

“hand over some of your children to perform the office of the priesthood after they have received a liberal education and have been carefully taught, so that, like other races, ye may have clergy and priests speaking your own tongue and conversant with Latin.”
Otto of Bamberg at Pyritz (1124), in Ebo/Herbord, Life of Otto, trans. Robinson (1920), public domain.public domain

How it works in the game: the move Priests of Your Own Tongue

EcclesiologyArgument · power 76 · 100% accurate

In the gameAsks for the thing that would have made the mission survive him: Pomeranian boys taught and ordained, so the church there could speak Pomeranian. He asked once, in one sermon, and then went home and nothing was done.

Learned byThe Life of Otto (Lv 38)

“Those then who are specially fitted by character and by knowledge should be invited rather than drawn by force to this sacrament. I exhort you, therefore, and invite you, for it is not right that I should use force”
Otto of Bamberg at Pyritz (1124), in Ebo/Herbord, Life of Otto, trans. Robinson (1920), public domain.public domain

How it works in the game: the move It Is Not Right to Use Force

EcclesiologyArgument · power 80 · 100% accurate

In the gameA bishop with sixty armed men outside, saying the quiet part in the middle of the sermon. He is asking for their sons to be given for the priesthood, and he stops to say he cannot make them.

Learned byThe Life of Otto (Lv 42)

“You must be careful not to show desire for anything that they possess… you must give back more than you receive, in order that they may understand that it is not to secure filthy lucre, but only from love of God, that you have undertaken the task of preaching to them.”
Bernard the Spaniard to Otto of Bamberg, in Ebo/Herbord, Life of Otto, trans. Charles H. Robinson (SPCK, 1920), public domain. (trimmed quote)public domain

How it works in the game: the move Give Back More Than You Take

EthicsArgument · power 82 · 100% accurate

In the gameThe answer to you are only here for the money. Want nothing of theirs, give back more than they give you, and let the accounts prove it.

Learned byThe Life of Otto (Lv 46)

Strong against

×3The Abject Messengeran argument · why?

It closes the second limb first — come rich, leave poorer, and the charge has nowhere to stand.

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