“Under the influence of Schleiermacher they strive to set religion free from all knowledge and assent, and conceive it as only trust in the heart. But this endeavor is a fruitless one.”
Herman Bavinck, The Philosophy of Revelation (1908–09 Stone Lectures), public domain.public domain
A Fruitless Endeavor
Biblical TheologyArgument · power 96 · 100% accurateIn the gameBavinck says plainly that it does not work. Religion cut off from knowledge and belief, reduced to trust alone, is not a purer faith. It can no longer say what it trusts in.
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×4On Religiona book · why?
Bavinck names it directly: trust with no knowledge in it cannot say what it is trusting. Feeling needs an object, and the object is not supplied by the feeling itself.
×4The Feeling of Absolute Dependencean argument · why?
Bavinck names it directly: trust with no knowledge in it cannot say what it is trusting. Feeling needs an object, and the object is not supplied by the feeling itself.
“For in him we live, and move, and have our being. As some of your own poets have said.”
Acts 17:28 (WEB) — Paul at the Areopagus, quoting the Athenians’ own poets back to them.
In the gamePick the part of the opponent’s case that is true and affirm it. That point can no longer be used against you, and the opponent’s Defend falls sharply. It deals no damage. Affirm something false and you have only agreed with an error.
“Kant himself set limits to knowledge in order to make a place for faith, and to find room, by reasoning on the nature and content of practical reason, for the reality of a moral government of the world.”
Herman Bavinck, The Philosophy of Revelation (1908–09 Stone Lectures), public domain.public domain
Kant’s Own Admission
Biblical TheologyArgument · power 84 · 100% accurateIn the gameBavinck noticed what Kant did next. Having ruled God out of speculative reason, Kant went looking for God, freedom and a moral order another way, through practical reason. The limits were real, but Kant did not stay silent about God.
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×2Room for Beliefan argument · why?
Bavinck notes that Kant limited knowledge to make room for faith, and then built faith on practical reason. Even Kant could not leave the question of God closed.
×2The Critique of Pure Reasona book · why?
Bavinck notes that Kant limited knowledge to make room for faith, and then built faith on practical reason. Even Kant could not leave the question of God closed.
×2The Self-Sufficient Minda book · why?
Even Kant said reason reaches its limit and stops. The book quotes him and skips that chapter.
“The distinction between what has come to be called general and special revelation does not begin until the call of Abraham.”
Herman Bavinck, The Philosophy of Revelation (1908–09 Stone Lectures), public domain.public domain
General and Special Revelation
Biblical TheologyArgument · power 88 · 100% accurateIn the gameBavinck’s answer to where religion starts: not a faculty found by looking inward, but God making himself known. He speaks first through creation and conscience, to everyone, and then through his word, beginning with the call of Abraham.
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×4Nein!an argument · why?
Bavinck agrees with Barth that God has to speak, and then says something Barth would not. God shows himself in creation first, to everyone, and then speaks particular words. Barth is right that nothing replaces the word. He is wrong that the world says nothing.
×4Room for Beliefan argument · why?
Kant clears room and then fills it himself, out of practical reason. Bavinck asks the question Kant never asks first: what if the room was already filled, from outside, by a word?
×4The Critique of Pure Reasona book · why?
Kant clears room and then fills it himself, out of practical reason. Bavinck asks the question Kant never asks first: what if the room was already filled, from outside, by a word?
×2.5The Self-Sufficient Minda book · why?
Bavinck: reason works on what God has already shown. A mind that cuts itself off from revelation cuts itself off from its own ground.
×2.5Totem and Tabooan argument · why?
Reason, then feeling, now the unconscious. Three faculties, one move — and Bavinck asks the same thing every time: did anybody check whether God had come down?
×2On Religiona book · why?
Bavinck answers that religion begins with God speaking, not with a feeling. God shows himself to everyone in creation, and then speaks particular words, beginning with his call to Abraham.
×2The Feeling of Absolute Dependencean argument · why?
Bavinck answers that religion begins with God speaking, not with a feeling. God shows himself to everyone in creation, and then speaks particular words, beginning with his call to Abraham.
“…it set out by breaking down the bridge between thinking and being, and thus created a chasm which, afterwards, no reasoning of the intellect could fill up nor any act of the will overleap. Thinking lost hold upon being.”
Herman Bavinck, The Philosophy of Revelation (Stone Lectures, Princeton 1908–09; public domain). (trimmed quote)public domain
Thinking Lost Hold Upon Being
RationalityArgument · power 88 · 100% accurateIn the gameIdealism cut the link between the mind and the world, hoping to protect knowledge from the senses. Bavinck shows where that leads: once thinking has lost its grip on what is real, more thinking cannot get it back.
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×2.5Nothing Outside the Textan argument · why?
Bavinck saw that once mind is cut off from the world, thinking has nowhere to stand. Derrida’s endless chain of signs is that cut. His own sentences only work if a reader can reach past the words to what he means.
×2.5Room for Beliefan argument · why?
Kant limits knowledge to make room for faith, and Bavinck follows the cut to where it lands. Once thinking has no purchase on being, the room made for faith is a room with nothing in it that anyone could know.
×2.5The Complete Sceptican argument · why?
Bavinck saw what happens when thinking is cut off from the world. It has nothing to stand on and nothing to check itself against. The sceptic’s bewildered ape has no reason to trust its own conclusion that it is one.
×2.5The Critique of Pure Reasona book · why?
Kant limits knowledge to make room for faith, and Bavinck follows the cut to where it lands. Once thinking has no purchase on being, the room made for faith is a room with nothing in it that anyone could know.
“While offering itself as a mere method, it soon appears to be a theory and a system. It brings to the investigation of things a preconceived judgment of its own, both as to reality and as to truth.”
Herman Bavinck, The Philosophy of Revelation (Stone Lectures, Princeton, 1908–09) (public domain).public domain
A System in Disguise
PresuppositionArgument · power 90 · 100% accurateIn the gameBavinck saw pragmatism coming and named its trick. It offers itself as a plain method for getting things done, and then turns out to carry a theory of what is real and what is true. Rorty’s grandfather claimed to have no theory. He had one.
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×4Truth Is What Works for Usan argument · why?
Rorty’s grandfather in the faith, William James, said pragmatism was only a method. Bavinck saw in 1908 that a method with no theory of truth does not exist. It offers itself as a plain tool and quietly carries a whole account of what is real. That account is what you are being asked to accept.
“In so far the truth is bound to reality, and finds its criterion in correspondence with reality.”
Herman Bavinck, The Philosophy of Revelation (Stone Lectures, Princeton, 1908–09) (public domain).public domain
Truth Bound to Reality
RationalityArgument · power 86 · 100% accurateIn the gameThe plain answer, in one sentence. A claim is true if it matches the world. It is not true because a group prefers it. Everything the Rorty raft says depends on denying this, and it says it while expecting to be believed.
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×3Truth Is What Works for Usan argument · why?
Truth is not what a room lets you get away with. It is a match between what you say and how things are. If that were not so, no one could ever be wrong in a way that mattered, and Rorty would have nothing to correct.
“Christianity is itself history; it makes history, is one of the principal factors of history, and is itself precisely what lifts history high above nature and natural processes.”
Herman Bavinck, The Philosophy of Revelation (Stone Lectures, Princeton 1908–09; public domain).public domain
Christianity Is Itself History
HistoryArgument · power 90 · 100% accurateIn the gameTold that his faith is a product of history, Bavinck answers that it is a maker of history. Christianity arrives, acts and changes things, and that is a claim the historical record can test.
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×3Beyond the Mytha book · why?
Bavinck: Christianity is not a product of history to be explained away. It made the history the book is trying to explain.
×3No Big Storyan argument · why?
Bavinck answers the man who says Christianity is a product of history: it is one of the forces that made history. A story that has shaped the world for two thousand years is not dissolved by being called one story among many.
×2.5The Life of Jesus Examinedan argument · why?
Strauss files the gospels as myth — a community’s ideas dressed as events. Bavinck answers that Christianity is not downstream of history being explained; it arrives, acts, and makes the history that later gets explained.
“In every moment of time beats the pulse of eternity; every point in space is filled with the omnipresence of God.”
Herman Bavinck, The Philosophy of Revelation (Stone Lectures, Princeton 1908–09; public domain).public domain
The Pulse Of Eternity
Biblical TheologyArgument · power 94 · 100% accurateIn the gameThe heart of Bavinck’s Stone Lectures. Revelation is not one item in the world, to be weighed against the others. The whole world stands on it, so there is no neutral ground, and the deeper any science digs, the more of God’s work it finds.
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×2.5A Uniform Experience Against Itan argument · why?
Hume weighs a miracle against uniform experience and the scales are built before anything is placed on them. Bavinck asks what the experience is resting on: if revelation is what the world stands on, a closed order was never the neutral starting point it claimed to be.
×2.5An Enquiry Concerning Human Understandinga book · why?
Hume weighs a miracle against uniform experience and the scales are built before anything is placed on them. Bavinck asks what the experience is resting on: if revelation is what the world stands on, a closed order was never the neutral starting point it claimed to be.