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Plato

The Dialogues of Plato

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Socrates asks one more question. He always asks one more question.

Catch rate
Not found in the wild
Base research
96
Stat total
250

Base stats

Every stat is a checkable fact about the actual book, not a designer's mood. Bars are drawn against the highest value any book reaches.

Stamina62
Contend62
Defend56
Popularity70
Total250

Moves learned

By levelling up. A book that develops keeps what it knew and learns the rest on its new schedule.

LvMoveTypeCat.PwrAccPP
1Socratic QuestionRationalityArgument50100%20
1Allegory of the CaveAllegoryArgument55100%15
8Question the PremiseRationalityType shift——10
50Speak GreekHistoryStatus—100%5

The quotes behind its moves

How to read these. In Scholar’s Dream, books argue with each other. Each thing a book can do in a debate is a move, and most moves carry a real quotation — the words the book puts on the table when it uses that move.

Strong against lists the opposing books and arguments a move was written to answer. Used against one of them, it hits much harder than usual: ×2 means twice the normal force, ×4 four times. It is the game’s way of saying: this is the sentence that answers that argument. Open an entry to read why.

“And do you think that they would see anything of themselves or of one another, except the shadows thrown by the fire on the wall of the cave?”

Plato, Republic 514a–515a (trans. Jowett, public domain; condensed) — prisoners who take shadows for reality, until one climbs to the light.public domain

Allegory of the Cave

AllegoryArgument · power 55 · 100% accurate

In the gameShadows on a wall, mistaken for the world.

“The unexamined life is not worth living.” — Socrates at his trial, as Plato records it.

Plato, Apology 38a (trans. Jowett, public domain).public domain

Socratic Question

RationalityArgument · power 50 · 100% accurate

In the gameQuestion after question until the seams show. Often finds the telling stroke.

“He who pleads his cause first seems right; until another comes and questions him.”

Proverbs 18:17 (WEB).

Question the Premise

RationalityType shift

In the gameChallenge the foundation of an argument before it can be pressed. Lowers the foe’s Contend.

What answers it

The specific move or chapter of Scripture that cuts through this one, and why. The number is how much harder it hits than usual — ×4 is four times the normal force.

This I Read Not There×4

Everything but the one sentence. Augustine read these books and found the Word in them, and did not find him made flesh.

Argument from Desire×2.5

Diotima’s ladder in the Symposium climbs from one beautiful body to all of them to beauty itself, because no particular thing ever finishes the wanting. Augustine makes that argument nearly eight centuries later and grants Plato every rung of it. What a Form cannot do is come looking for you.

Grace Perfects Nature×2.5

Nobody here says Plato was wrong. The claim is that he was unfinished, and that what he was reaching for came down and finished it.

Their Own Poets×2

Paul did not argue the Athenians out of their poets. He quoted them, agreed with them, and then said the one thing the poets had never reached.

Seed of the Word×2

Justin’s rule: whatever any philosopher said truly, he said it because the Word who became Christ had already sown it in him. Plato is not the opponent here. He is early evidence.

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