“It may be questioned… whether tithes were anywhere exacted by the apostles; and if we ourselves, born and bred in the faith, do not care to give tithes, how much more must the fierce barbarians, lately converted, resent their exaction.”
Alcuin of York, Ep. 110 (796), trans. Page (1909), public domain. (trimmed quote)public domain
Did the Apostles Take Tithes?
EcclesiologyArgument · power 78 · 100% accurateIn the gameTwo questions, and the second is the one that stings. Where in the apostles is a tithe collected from a new convert — and how hard do we, raised in the faith, find it to pay ours?
“Those then who are specially fitted by character and by knowledge should be invited rather than drawn by force to this sacrament. I exhort you, therefore, and invite you, for it is not right that I should use force”
Otto of Bamberg at Pyritz (1124), in Ebo/Herbord, Life of Otto, trans. Robinson (1920), public domain.public domain
It Is Not Right to Use Force
EcclesiologyArgument · power 80 · 100% accurateIn the gameA bishop with sixty armed men outside, saying the quiet part in the middle of the sermon. He is asking for their sons to be given for the priesthood, and he stops to say he cannot make them.
“thou shouldst propose to them in no irritating or offensive manner, but with the greatest calmness and moderation… so that the heathen more out of confusion than exasperation may blush for their absurd opinions”
Daniel of Winchester, Letter to Boniface (c. 723), trans. Kylie (1911), public domain. (trimmed quote)public domain
Calmness and Moderation
EthicsStat shift · 100% accurateIn the gameA bishop’s advice to a missionary about his tone. Ask your questions calmly, and the other man falls quiet from confusion instead of digging in from anger.
“If… the same pains had been taken to preach to them the easy yoke and light burden of Christ as has been done to collect tithes, and to punish the slightest infringement of the laws on their part, then they would no longer abhor and repel baptism.”
Alcuin of York, Ep. 111 (796), trans. Rolph Barlow Page, The Letters of Alcuin (1909), public domain. (trimmed quote)public domain
The Easy Yoke
EthicsArgument · power 90 · 100% accurateIn the gameAlcuin names the real reason the Saxons refused. They were taxed and prosecuted, with the preaching somewhere behind. Put the effort into teaching instead, and the answer changes.
Strong against
×3Baptised or Beheadedan argument · why?
Alcuin’s question, asked in 796 and never answered: what if we had preached as hard as we taxed?