Michael Graham of The Gospel Coalition’s Keller Center returns to walk through the 2026 AI Christian Benchmark, which he built with Andrew: 117 questions on theology, ethics, attachment, and Bible knowledge, run against 46 AI models. The models beat seminary students on a Bible exam, scored worst on sexual ethics, and too often offer to be your friend or pray for you. Michael makes the case for a principled pluralist way of answering religious questions, and explains the one sentence that makes a chatbot’s answers line up with your church’s teaching.
The three hosts are back at the end of the summer, and the news has piled up. Meta settled with forty-seven state attorneys general for up to $17 billion, and Austin walks through what the company actually conceded, why those concessions leave the core product intact, and how Meta turned its own loss into a strike at Snap, TikTok, and YouTube. Andrew noticed that Claude’s memory feature excludes religious beliefs, which leaves a secular default sitting underneath everything else it personalizes, and Joel explains what really happened when models “escaped the sandbox,” whether a VPN is worth paying for, and why an ordinary church is an easy target.
Obadiah Mariona, who works for Heritage College and Seminary while finishing his master’s degree, joins the hosts to ask how AI is changing education. Andrew brings a study where homework scores rose and exam scores fell, Obadiah explains why he uses AI at work and not in his coursework, and Austin describes how seminary writing has changed since he graduated. Joel makes the case for personalized AI tutoring and Austin asks who can afford it, and the episode ends on authority, the church, and the Heritage Hub, which hosts seminary classes in local churches.
Crossway gave the show permission to play a whole chapter of Andrew Wilson’s Remaking the World, “Machines: Becoming Industrialized,” read by the author himself. All three hosts then respond: whether the AI moment is a second Industrial Revolution or what Joel would rather call an autonomy revolution, why Austin thinks the internet is still the closer analogy, why the Luddite comparison turns dark around data centers, and what the invention of marketing did to who gets to speak in a church.
Andrew and Joel sit down with Scott Hurst, a self-described 'average' Toronto pastor, to hear how the AI conversation actually sounds between pastors. Less 'should AI write your sermon' (nobody is) and more rental agreements, meeting minutes, the capacity for mystery, and the pain points a shepherd should never automate away.
SEO is dead, so Andrew reframes the whole question: communication is how we love our neighbor, which means choosing the right medium. The hosts work through email, group texts, church apps like Planning Center, a Google Voice text ministry, and the new robots.txt era of search.