Use tech,
find rest, and
glorify God.
A pastor, a product manager, and a professor interview leading theologians and technologists; growing in their ability to imitate Jesus in a digital age.
120 episodes · new most weeks
A wiki, built from our conversations
Every episode, sorted by the ideas, thinkers, and scriptures it touches. Start with a topic and follow the threads.
Artificial Intelligence
Chatbots, agents, and the image of God in an age of thinking machines. What does it mean to be human when the machine can talk back?
Social Media
Attention, formation, and the algorithmic feed. How the platforms shape us, and how to use them as Jesus would.
Metaverse & Embodiment
Bodies, presence, and the incarnation in a virtual world. What we lose when gathering goes digital.
Money & Bitcoin
Money as a technology, from fiat to Bitcoin, read through the parable of the talents, generosity, and gospel patronage.
The books behind the conversations
The works we return to again and again, each one threaded to the episodes that wrestle with it.
The people we've talked to
Theologians, authors, and builders who have joined us on the show, each one linked to the conversation we had with them.