Use tech,
find rest, and
glorify God.
A pastor, a product manager, and a professor interview leading theologians and technologists; growing in their ability to imitate Jesus in a digital age.
125 episodes · new most weeks
A wiki, built from our conversations
Every episode, sorted by the ideas, thinkers, and scriptures it touches. Start with a topic and follow the threads.
Artificial Intelligence
Chatbots, agents, and the image of God in an age of thinking machines. What does it mean to be human when the machine can talk back?
Social Media
Attention, formation, and the algorithmic feed. How the platforms shape us, and how to use them as Jesus would.
Metaverse & Embodiment
Bodies, presence, and the incarnation in a virtual world. What we lose when gathering goes digital.
Money & Bitcoin
Money as a technology, from fiat to Bitcoin, read through the parable of the talents, generosity, and gospel patronage.
The books behind the conversations
The works we return to again and again, each one threaded to the episodes that wrestle with it.
The people we've talked to
Theologians, authors, and builders who have joined us on the show, each one linked to the conversation we had with them.
Why we make this show
I started building the What Would Jesus Tech podcast shortly after a conversation in 2021 in Toronto, in the home of my hospitable cohost, Joel Jacob. He and I have discussed the Bible, godly living, and technology since the time we met at the University of Waterloo in the late 2000s. This podcast is an outflow of our friendship, and now, an outflow of a new friendship with Austin Gravley, who has been part of the majority of our episodes.
As a brief background, Joel works in technology (currently at Splunk/Cisco, formerly at Ecobee and Toyota). Austin works in pastoral ministry (currently as a youth pastor, formerly at The Gospel Coalition). And I (Andrew) am working on a PhD (currently an Adjunct Professor, formerly at a tech company called Plum). Together, we are a Product Manager, a Pastor, and a Professor. I’m thankful for these men and the debates we regularly have.
We want to have a posture of helping Christians use technology rather than being used by it. It means being gospel-centered and knowing our deepest needs are met not through technology but in our Savior – Jesus Christ. And it means thinking shrewdly and living wisely before a holy God, giving him honor in how we build technology. That is the goal of our podcast.
Here’s what we believe: Christians can lead the technological age through imitating Christ. Such an approach is neither anxious nor blind, neither nostalgic nor futurist, but based on the gifts of God’s Word in the Scriptures and the help of one another. Theologians must learn from technologists. And those working in technology need to learn from pastors. All of us need to learn from Jesus.
— Andrew